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    « Libya, Failed Policies, Morality and Foreign Relations | Main | Lacking Leaders, the Parties Bicker »

    March 11, 2011

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    The quality of life and security for the citizens has been largely restored and we are a large part of why that has happened.

    @mindsadrift Although you are probably right in the sense that it is hard to judge without the results, my view of the "stupidity" is that Obama (and everyone in the Administration) is apparently looking at the conflict very narrowly. If Libya was isolated or an isolated "incident" would our actions be foolish? Probably not, but given the broader context of the democratic uprisings in the Middle East, in my view the "smart" thing to do is to look at it in that context. According to all the speeches and talk shows, it appears that we are taking Libya on its own and not viewing it in the broader context. That seems very foolish to me. If we had considered the broader context, we would realize that our actions and appearance in Libya has affects in the other conflicts on both the "protesters" and the rulers of the region. That is why I believe we should have acted more quickly, with more leadership and why I don't believe it smart that we relinquish the leadership role. The goal should not only be helping the protesters, but the removal of Gadhafi and, most importantly, the demonstration to the rest of the Middle East that we are in favor of the democratic movements not only with our words but with our actions.

    I don't know if we can make any claims on this conflict and our involvement yet. Don't we need to see how this plays out before we know whether or not Obama was "stupid" in his handling of this situation? I think the administration wanted to make sure this was a clear departure from Bush strategies.

    @ChatandPonder I feel the King hearings are idiotic because they are merely a political stunt pandering to a portion of the population that wants to blame all Muslims for terrorism. They prove nothing, they tell us nothing, they provide no real information on domestic terrorism, and they taint a portion of the American population that has been fiercely loyal (most of our information about domestic terrorist has come from Muslims living here). Like McCarthy's HUAC hearings, they are unjust guilt-by-association pandering and political grandstanding. In my view that is idiotic. And yes, they also hurt the relationship the US has with foreign Muslims, and plays into the hands of those who vilify the US for prejudice against Muslims.

    Loved this article. Well written. Just wondering why did you call the King's hearings 'idiotic'? Do you think that these hearings hurt our relationship with muslims even more, or are there some other reasons?

    @bailey No doubt that is the thought process. But in my view it is and has been completely myopic. This is completely different from Iraq and most other "interventions." We were asked, by the people on the ground, in the midst of the biggest democratic uprising in Mid-East history. We didn't take advantage of the situation early enough and we are not showing enough leadership now. Things change, paradigms shift. That is what is happening before our eyes in the Middle East and all the old hands are failing to see its strategic and historic significance.

    Like most of us Obama did not agree with the strategy of Bush going into Iraq. He is correct in keeping americas big interfering nose out of it.. At least that is how they are referred to when they do go in. In other words USA can't win.

    With Libya our country has an opportunity to forge strong ties with the Muslim world at low cost. All we need to do is give the rebels the same anti-aircraft weaponry we gave Afghans to defeat Russsia. That would bring down nearly all attacking aircraft and make us good friends of the Libyan people.

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